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PostPosted: Wed 30 Jul - 04:48 (2014)    Post subject: Expanding Moria Reply with quote

I was thinking about more mountains counties for moria, and I read again (by the way what is your main source of info ? And what value is this wiki to you ? )

Here are some thought (and I really do not want to criticize, I love what you guys are doing, this is just for potential improvement if you find some sense in my remarks)

- Moria is supposed to be the wealthiest and most powerfull realm of dwarves, and while its wealth was based on mines and mithril, shouldn't its power reflects on its size and number of holdings ? If so Moria has 7/7 holdings (built/potential), Forn Luin 23/23 (4 counties), Ered Mirthrin 16/26 (5 counties), Duven Luin (actually same realm as Fron Luin in the blue mountains) 9/14, Zirakdum 10/11
At that point, Moria is one of the weakest dwarven realm (and with 2 useless temples among its holding)

Of course, if we take into account the whole potential of misty mountains, the realm of Moria goes to 21/30, but still second to Blue Mountains (31/37) (I do not count Caradhras Pass as it is an Eregion de jure county)

So far the core of Moria is the size of Erebor, build under the lonely mountain, while Moria was build Under 3 mountains (the main city Under Celebdil, the rest Under the Caradhras and the Fanuidhol)

References for easy access :

So why not add 2 other counties to the distric of moria, , the main one could still be called Moria/khazad-dum (though it might be best to keep moria as the name of the whole district...), under the celebdil/Zirakzigil I would say, the others Under the Caradhras/Baranzibar and the Fanuidhol/Bundushathûr. For the number of holdings I would propose something like 5/6 and 4/5.

This image doesn't solve the caradhras pass issue if it should be between Celebdil and Caradhras

For special buildings : Should the main bonus apply to the 3 counties or just to the capital one ? I would say the 3 for immersion, but only the capital for balancing.
Mithril mines are supposed to be only Under the Caradhras

About the Caradhras pass : From what I read it should connect to Nanduhirion/Azanulbizar to the east (as Moria is doing in the map for now) and not to Nimrodel. But the main problem I see is that the pass should rather be between the Celebdil and the Caradhras, so that would need rework of that part, and what bothers me is that by doing so, the pass would give access to Moria in spite of going above it. I have no idea how to solve it so far.

The northern county of Lothlorien is called Fanuidhol, if this is indeed the name of the peak above it, shouldn't that name be changed ?
A prefix could just be added like Undu (Under) Sindi (river) Penda (sloping down)
Source :

a map showing the peaks…

Thanks for reading this, and sorry it the source I quote is inadequate in any way
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PostPosted: Wed 30 Jul - 13:14 (2014)    Post subject: Expanding Moria Reply with quote

Adding some more counties in this area is ok for me, but not extend the Moria into them, it'll be confusing for most of the players i think  Okay
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